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as a moderate, discussing the possibility of a john kerry nomination to be secretary of state. >> i think john kerry would be an excellent appointment and would be easily confirmed by his colleagues. >> at the same time, there was really no love there for susan rice and what she did, which was surprising to a lot of us watching, was she raised the 1998 bombings, the embassy bombings in kenya and tanzania when susan rice was the assistant secretary for african affairs in the bill clinton administration in basically in the state department back then and what was her responsibility over that? susan collins said we hadn't learned the lessons and she had troubling questions about that. she asked susan rice about it and susan rice said she would have to refresh her memory. >> i think the benghazi controversy opened the door to other senators, other critics of susan rice, to raise questions, including about her tenure when she was assistant secretary of state for african affairs and there is -- there has been criticism of her role there. i mean in some ways i think susan collins' criticism has more p
, but unlike say over the last two losers, john mccain and john kerry, he doesn't have a senate seat to go back to. he doesn't have a big base in the party that was with him before he got the nomination. so, maybe he's returning to the life he has ahead which is one more personal and focused on family than politics. >> it's no question this is one nominee who is not going to remain a leader in the party. >> he would have to engage in dramatic actions to be a leader in the party. i say never rule it out. i thought he liked the lifestyle he had before he ran, loves his kids, grandsons, the homes they own. while he grapples with the meaning of his loss he's going to be happy building that southern california mansion and spending time with the kids and also trying to figure out if he does have a place in public life or simply a retired grandfather with a lot of grandchildren he loves. >> and as the party begins to move on, we hear about jeb bush from his son, the fact that jeb bush may be running and jeb bush actually chastising marco rubio for some of the comments that he made in iowa. >> don't yo
as secretary of state. and, of course, waiting in the wings, john kerry, who we understand the white house will nominate to be defense secretary. i'm told he would accept that post even though he would prefer to be secretary of state. we've got to go but thank you very much. chris cizilla, kelly o'donnell. joining me now is ambassador nicolas burns, former undersecretary of state and ambassador to nato, now with the john f. kennedy school of government at harvard. nick we've been through this before, seen confirmation hearings go off kilter. this is not getting a great start. >> and it's a shame, andrea, because i think these charges against ambassador rice, i don't find convincing. she was simply representing the viewpoint of an entire administration and many of us have been in positions of defending administration's republican and democrat in the past, i have, where you're not out there, you know, just trumpeting your own personal views. you're relying on a collective judgment made ats the state department, the white house, the cia and other places, and she was merely the person represen
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